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I'd like to point out that while indeed both the Kevin and Drew "Golden" endings are non canon, they are also specifically designed as a ending they could have had had THEY been the protagonist of this story, especially Kevin given how easily gameified his entire plotline can be.

He does a lot of "zany" pervert shit other house game MCs do like the fake cameras or tricking women into shit via deception like in his What If with Amber, then after he realizes how much of a scumbag he was (and also because he's been sent to a new far more strict home) he realizes he has a problem and actively seeks to better himself, both in body and spirit, in order not to repeat the same mistakes.

Even the golden ending focuses on that, with him not coming to confront Ophelia if she outright tells him not to (Let's see if that persists in the next chapter) vs him only coming to ask for clarifications and THEN having Ophelia being thrown at him due to events outside of his control.

So again, yes those are NON CANON NTR endings, but that's because we are following Sterling's story. Neither Drew or Kevin's golden ending have the KEY component of most bad endings in this game, the ones involving Hunter, which is again the use of non consensual hard drugs to rape these women, with Drew's as a story of repentance and Kevin one of self betterment, thus making them if not good ending at least OK endings.

Especially since Sterling would still have plenty of women to pick from in the case of both golden endings.
 

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I'd like to point out that while indeed both the Kevin and Drew "Golden" endings are non canon, they are also specifically designed as a ending they could have had had THEY been the protagonist of this story, especially Kevin given how easily gameified his entire plotline can be.

He does a lot of "zany" pervert shit other house game MCs do like the fake cameras or tricking women into shit via deception like in his What If with Amber, then after he realizes how much of a scumbag he was (and also because he's been sent to a new far more strict home) he realizes he has a problem and actively seeks to better himself, both in body and spirit, in order not to repeat the same mistakes.

Even the golden ending focuses on that, with him not coming to confront Ophelia if she outright tells him not to (Let's see if that persists in the next chapter) vs him only coming to ask for clarifications and THEN having Ophelia being thrown at him due to events outside of his control.

So again, yes those are NON CANON NTR endings, but that's because we are following Sterling's story. Neither Drew or Kevin's golden ending have the KEY component of most bad endings in this game, the ones involving Hunter, which is again the use of non consensual hard drugs to rape these women, with Drew's as a story of repentance and Kevin one of self betterment, thus making them if not good ending at least OK endings.

Especially since Sterling would still have plenty of women to pick from in the case of both golden endings.
I always saw the non canon NTR ending of what WOULD have happened IF Sterling acted this way, the characters are true to themselves but a specific circumstances happened make the story takes a different path than the main storyline.

All of that said, the kevin ending for me LACKED cuckolding aspect and this is why long ago with the help of Fayn Arrawn, we wrote a different NTR kevin scenario together. Anyone is free to disagree with it but this was my headcanon to improve the game :

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I'd like to point out that while indeed both the Kevin and Drew "Golden" endings are non canon, they are also specifically designed as a ending they could have had had THEY been the protagonist of this story, especially Kevin given how easily gameified his entire plotline can be.

He does a lot of "zany" pervert shit other house game MCs do like the fake cameras or tricking women into shit via deception like in his What If with Amber, then after he realizes how much of a scumbag he was (and also because he's been sent to a new far more strict home) he realizes he has a problem and actively seeks to better himself, both in body and spirit, in order not to repeat the same mistakes.

Even the golden ending focuses on that, with him not coming to confront Ophelia if she outright tells him not to (Let's see if that persists in the next chapter) vs him only coming to ask for clarifications and THEN having Ophelia being thrown at him due to events outside of his control.

So again, yes those are NON CANON NTR endings, but that's because we are following Sterling's story. Neither Drew or Kevin's golden ending have the KEY component of most bad endings in this game, the ones involving Hunter, which is again the use of non consensual hard drugs to rape these women, with Drew's as a story of repentance and Kevin one of self betterment, thus making them if not good ending at least OK endings.

Especially since Sterling would still have plenty of women to pick from in the case of both golden endings.

The bad endings all have the characters in question acting out of character for a scene to happen, Drew's and Kevins included. It's not that it could have been canon had they been the protaonist. It's characterliterally acting completely different to try to force a scene. The fact that Kevin does some stuff thatcharacters from other games do doesn't matter because a big part of this game is lampshading tropes from this genre. A lot of the early chapters involving pointing out how a lot of those tropes specifically don't work in reality and are just creepy instead. Like how Sterling points out how creepy the sleep molestingstuff is.


The whole fucous on "golden ending" is nonsense when What why games already said none of the endings but sterlings are canon. And I dont get why anyone is taking it even somewhat seriously even if you like kevin and the ntr scenes. You guys are focusing on the ntr scene because you like ntr but none of them make any sense plot wise
 
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The bad endings all have the characters in question acting out of character for a scene to happen, Drew's and Kevins included. It's not that it could have been canon had they been the protaonist. It's characterliterally acting completely different to try to force a scene. The fact that Kevin does some stuff thatcharacters from other games do doesn't matter because a big part of this game is lampshading tropes from this genre. A lot of the early chapters involving pointing out how a lot of those tropes specifically don't work in reality and are just creepy instead. Like how Sterling points out how creepy the sleep molestingstuff is.


The whole fucous on "golden ending" is nonsense when What why games already said none of the endings but sterlings are canon. And I dont get why anyone is taking it even somewhat seriously even if you like kevin and the ntr scenes. You guys are focusing on the ntr scene because you like ntr but none of them make any sense plot wise
I wouldn't just dismiss the NTR endings as implausible. If you can suspend your disbelief enough to accept the incest harem fantasy, in spite of all societal and biological factors, then it's not really a stretch to believe that the alternate endings could happen.

That being said, the non-NTR storyline is obviously the "true" timeline. We should probably cool it with some of the more overt NTR posts, in consideration of those who aren't fans of it.
 
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What chapter are you on? I'd say keep playing, Kevin gets some karma for his behavior.
the chapter where i went to a tree with breanna and came back and catherine jumped on her for not being in bed. Maybe chapter 6? It'd be nice to get rid of all these bad elements towards the girls, I don't like the drugging.
 
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I wouldn't just dismiss the NTR endings as implausible. If you can suspend your disbelief enough to accept the incest harem fantasy, in spite of all societal and biological factors, then it's not really a stretch to believe that the alternate endings could happen.

That being said, the non-NTR storyline is obviously the "true" timeline. We should probably cool it with some of the more overt NTR posts, in consideration of those who aren't fans of it.

The incest had multiple chapters building it up and neither Ophelia or Brenna wanted to fuck Sterling until at least halfway through the game. The bad endings don't have that build up and are sometimes counter to what we've already established like Ophelia's and Kevin's ending and he already had less rapport than sterling did at the start. Which is also one of the reason why hunter's bad endings don't make sense most of the time except for the ones where he drugged them so intensely they became delirious.

Saying it could be canon just because some similar events happen in a completely different game is just stupid.
 

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The incest had multiple chapters building it up and neither Ophelia or Brenna wanted to fuck Sterling until at least halfway through the game. The bad endings don't have that build up and are sometimes counter to what we've already established like Ophelia's and Kevin's ending and he already had less rapport than sterling did at the start. Which is also one of the reason why hunter's bad endings don't make sense most of the time except for the ones where he drugged them so intensely they became delirious.

Saying it could be canon just because some similar events happen in a completely different game is just stupid.
Shagging Kevin doesn't have the same stigma as shagging Sterling who is her son. In the Kevin ending Ophelia unknowingly drinks Hunter's wine and the viewers release the gas. Kevin's groveling also hits her dom kink.

From her perspective she was extremely horny and had the hottest sex she's ever had. Once she shows up to tell Kevin about their son Kevin is jacked, has his own place and a good job. The stigma preventing her from giving into her desire to shag Kevin was gone at that point.

The Good alternate endings are what ifs based on Sterling's decisions.
 

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Shagging Kevin doesn't have the same stigma as shagging Sterling who is her son. In the Kevin ending Ophelia unknowingly drinks Hunter's wine and the viewers release the gas. Kevin's groveling also hits her dom kink.

From her perspective she was extremely horny, had the hottest sex she's ever had, and once she shows up to tell Kevin about their son Kevin is jacked, has his own place and a good job. The stigma preventing her from giving into her desire to shag Kevin was gone at that point.

The Good alternate endings are what ifs based on Sterling's decisions.

It does when the guy stalked her for years hacked her accounts and repeatedly tried to black mail. Not everything has to has incest for you to directly have a stigma against it. Like the average person wouldn't be instead in fucking a homeless guy either. And just because a person has sex while black out drunk doesn't mean they are interested in doing it again while sober. That's why you need a pre existing relationship like what sterling has for the drugs to actually work. Hunter success hinges on the fact he keeps drugging them. You guys like Ntr so your insisting that the scene could happen, but no. Ophelia doesn't even like Kevin to be around her. She's not even going to get to the point where the gas effects her because she'd leave him at the front door and wouldn't care about his apology.

And I find it ridiculous that the conversation has even got to the part and that people are taking "kevin's true ending" as anything more than a joke just because it suits your fetish.
 

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In my head canon of this thread, nobody spams their opinions about what is and isn't canon in the game because none of that is relevant to anybody else. This is nobody's fucking diary and who feels the need just makes a text file about it on their desktop.

I love my imagination, it's truly paradise.
 

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The incest had multiple chapters building it up and neither Ophelia or Brenna wanted to fuck Sterling until at least halfway through the game. The bad endings don't have that build up and are sometimes counter to what we've already established like Ophelia's and Kevin's ending and he already had less rapport than sterling did at the start. Which is also one of the reason why hunter's bad endings don't make sense most of the time except for the ones where he drugged them so intensely they became delirious.

Saying it could be canon just because some similar events happen in a completely different game is just stupid.
Obviously it was going to take a while for the girls to decide to have sex with Sterling; they variously had to overcome loss, anger, virginity, etc., as well as face the incest taboo. But now that those challenges are dealt with, what would slow them down with hypothetical future partners?

When it comes to Kevin, you're probably right. It does seem unlikely that the girls would overcome their revulsion for him so quickly, if ever. Still, I root for Kevin not because I want to see him cuck Sterling, but because I actually like the idea that such even a loser like him can improve himself and find happiness.

Setting aside Kevin (and Hunter) for a minute, I'd ask you to think about the main theme (and title) of this game: "power vacuum". It doesn't matter how much time Sterling spent with the women, if he makes a major mistake, or if he leaves/dies, the girls WILL move on to someone who fulfills their needs. It's not romantic but it's human nature.
 

storm1051787

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Obviously it was going to take a while for the girls to decide to have sex with Sterling; they variously had to overcome loss, anger, virginity, etc., as well as face the incest taboo. But now that those challenges are dealt with, what would slow them down with hypothetical future partners?

When it comes to Kevin, you're probably right. It does seem unlikely that the girls would overcome their revulsion for him so quickly, if ever. Still, I root for Kevin not because I want to see him cuck Sterling, but because I actually like the idea that such even a loser like him can improve himself and find happiness.

Setting aside Kevin (and Hunter) for a minute, I'd ask you to think about the main theme (and title) of this game: "power vacuum". It doesn't matter how much time Sterling spent with the women, if he makes a major mistake, or if he leaves/dies, the girls WILL move on to someone who fulfills their needs. It's not romantic but it's human nature.


Power vacuum is not a that the girls are automatically going to move on with anyone at all. It's that Hunter and Sterling are taking advantage of the recent power vacuum left behind by the death of Sterling father. You don't actually need anyone to replace his father, they just need to adjust to life without him to fill that power vacuum. It doesn't necessarily mean they'll enter a sexual or romantic relationship with anyone. And even if Ophelia did start dating again it doesn't mean that her new boyfriend would ever get involved with Brenna or Catherine in any type of relationship outside of a paternal one.


As for Kevin he'd find happiness if he'd just go somewhere else and leave the family alone, it's only the fact that he's Ophelia's stalker that he hasn't done so.
 
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It does when the guy stalked her for years hacked her accounts and repeatedly tried to black mail. Not everything has to has incest for you to directly have a stigma against it.
As I already said "Shagging Kevin doesn't have the same stigma as shagging Sterling who is her son."

I never said it didn't have stigma. I'm saying that it has a hell of a lot less. So you can't compare Sterling's progression when he had that taboo working against, didn't have the wine and gas, and doesn't perfectly fit Ophelia's dom kink.
You guys like Ntr so your insisting that the scene could happen, but no.
Consider just for a moment that the reason you're in denial about this could be because you don't like ntr
Ophelia doesn't even like Kevin to be around her. She's not even going to get to the point where the gas effects her because she'd leave him at the front door and wouldn't care about his apology.
You realize that in canon after Kevin is exposed Ophelia invites Kevin into her home to do a seminar on cyber protection for everyone lol
And I find it ridiculous that the conversation has even got to the part and that people are taking "kevin's true ending" as anything more than a joke just because it suits your fetish.
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